^Yeah it comes across as a Debbie Downer/defeatist/alarmist message many don't want to hear on both sides of fence but looking at the bigger global picture, is really difficult to imagine ever getting this under control before a deadlier variant appears unless it somehow putters out on its own.herrfrank wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:24 amWhich is why the species will have this new endemic virus, possibly the current virulent Covid Delta or its next worse mutation, for the next several eons of humanity. This is a tragedy for the human species of pretty substantial (once a millennium?) proportions (not a planetary calamity like melting icecaps, because this only appears to affect our species).earthling wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:31 pm^If the case that vax's lose significant efficacy after 5-6 months will be a bit difficult to keep the planet on top of it. Under 15% of planet is fully vaccinated, about half using Sinovac that isn't very effective against Delta. Only about 1% of people in low-income countries have received at least one dose. edit: UK doesn't plan to vax those under 18 outside those at risk. Varying approaches per country mostly not working, there's no global unified plan.
This is not a great sign from a reported internal CDC document if the case (CNN, WaPo)...
The document -- a slide presentation -- outlines unpublished data that shows fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people.
That conflicts with data for those fully vaccinated recently but based on the Israel study and recent trends of heavily early Pfizer vax'd countries, might be the case for those vax'd several months ago. Several vaxs are clearly great for reducing hospitalization and death (for an unknown period) but maybe not for preventing new strains as earlier advertised, at least not on a global scale with a limited timeline window.
Am planning to take followup Pfizer boosters if needed either way as even short term protection is worth it to me (and relatives I'm caregiving for). Masking up again too.