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Basically, no. The significant funding will come from either the team or the taxpayers.

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KC Star finally drops the first look at its poll on the downtown stadium. They do note that it’s still got time left in it for people to vote. However, keep in mind Remington Research is a right wing polling firm and not known to be especially accurate. Somewhere in between the Star and their poll might be the truth?
2,254 votes
Support: 56.7%
Against: 43.3%

https://twitter.com/sportsdailykc/statu ... 66538?s=21

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chaglang wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:35 pm
Basically, no. The significant funding will come from either the team or the taxpayers.
Airport is paid for entirely by users and always has been (aside from Federal funds). City collects taxes from sales at the airport which go to city, state, etc coffers.

A privately financed stadium would charge more for tickets, not pay any or full taxes, and likely redirect tax revenues from a surrounding district.

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Just curious from all of you, what kind of district do you think would be created around the Royals downtown? Given P&L already has a party district, what would the stadium one be like?

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Let's be progressive, red light district.

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I suspect it will be the parking district

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KC_JAYHAWK wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:51 am
The weird thing about the Royals and Chiefs is that they are both tied to the Truman Sports complex through 2031. What other city has to deal with two franchises lease agreements at the same time? Probably none. If the Royals want a new downtown ballpark, I think it's going to have to be mostly privately financed. The 3/8 cents sales tax gets split down the middle I believe for both teams. Do you try to extend the sales tax? And what about the Chiefs?
I still think, and I don't like the idea, but to get JOCO to step up to help finance the stadiums, one of them is going to have to move to Kansas, which would most likely be the Chiefs, especially if they want a new stadium as well. So for two new stadiums, we are looking at $3B+. Jackson County residents can't fund that much. I don't know what the solution is, but it should get interesting in the next few years.
So a bi state tax where each side gets 1 team and funds both? Interesting but I'm not sure it would pass in Joco

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If this St Louis vs NFL lawsuit in January really does result in STL getting an expansion team the Chiefs are 100% going to Kansas in my estimation

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4Star Politics: The likelihood KC sees a pitch for a new downtown baseball stadium

https://fox4kc.com/your-local-election- ... l-stadium/

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Chiefs are not leaving MO

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KCPowercat wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:40 am
Chiefs are not leaving MO
I bet someone said that about the Rams.

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flyingember wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:04 pm
KCPowercat wrote:
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Chiefs are not leaving MO
I bet someone said that about the Rams.
No one cared enough about the Rams to say it.

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And everyone knew kroenke was moving them.

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What does St Louis have to do with the Chiefs going to Kansas?

I can see them moving to Kansas honestly. Hell, one of their biggest sponsors is the University of Kansas.

The Chiefs would move to KS if MO doesn't help them with the stadium. Won't have anything to do with the Rams situation or St Louis.

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Guys don't let the troll derail the conversation.

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GRID wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:20 pm
What does St Louis have to do with the Chiefs going to Kansas?

I can see them moving to Kansas honestly. Hell, one of their biggest sponsors is the University of Kansas.

The Chiefs would move to KS if MO doesn't help them with the stadium. Won't have anything to do with the Rams situation or St Louis.
I think we've all gotten over excited with no plans, but I suspect the royals and chiefs will go together on the ballot as usual.

I'm not sure what the chiefs want tbh. They're going to get some free renovation money if we get the world cup. I'm sure they're coming up with their wish list.

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St. Louis goes with Chiefs going to Kansas because it will cause alot less pressure on Missouri to have an NFL team in the state. If they lose the Chiefs, then they face the embarrassing prospect of losing two NFL teams, and being shut out from the NFL. STL with a team takes alot less pressure off that is what I meant.

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I can assure you of one thing. Even the rural crowd who want to screw Kansas City and St. Louis over almost any issue will beat their local state legislators with crowbars, and any sitting governor, if they don't come up with state money to keep the Chiefs -- because Missouri cannot be without an NFL team. This I can assure you. In rural Missouri, this is part of their identity.

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FangKC wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:51 am
I can assure you of one thing. Even the rural crowd who want to screw Kansas City and St. Louis over almost any issue will beat their local state legislators with crowbars, and any sitting governor, if they don't come up with state money to keep the Chiefs -- because Missouri cannot be without an NFL team. This I can assure you. In rural Missouri, this is part of their identity.
I can agree with that. But that just also proves the point that voters aren't this monolithic bloc that never wants to spend on pro-sports teams though, like has been suggested. "People don't give taxpayer money for teams anymore"

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