18th and Vine

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Northeast, Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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From the 4/6 CPC agenda:
3 XW 5 CASE # CD-CPC-2021-00008- One Nine Vine- 1901 Vine St - A request to
approve a rezoning from UR to UR to approve an amendment to a previously approved plan for an
80-unit mixed use building on about 1.3 acres generally located at 1901 Vine Street, the southeast
corner of 19th and Vine.
Applicant: Brenton Sells, Taliaferro and Browne Staff Recommendation:
Approval With Conditions Continued From: March 16, 2021
Quorum Established On: N/A
Required Quorum: None

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https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... b=moreinfo

57 single family homes to be built around the old work castle

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Has anyone seen these renderings from pendulum for the buck o’neill center? http://www.pendulumkc.com/#/buck-oneil/

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Riverite wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 1:52 pm
Has anyone seen these renderings from pendulum for the buck o’neill center? http://www.pendulumkc.com/#/buck-oneil/
They are a few years old. I don’t think anything happened with it

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normalthings wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Riverite wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 1:52 pm
Has anyone seen these renderings from pendulum for the buck o’neill center? http://www.pendulumkc.com/#/buck-oneil/
They are a few years old. I don’t think anything happened with it
Oh thanks for the update

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I think they got behind in renovating that building when the basement flooded. It set them back, and created the need to raise even more money.

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KC's First Black-Owned Brewery Reveals Future Home: Historic Redevelopment Project on Vine Street

https://www.startlandnews.com/2021/07/v ... t-brewing/

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The owner of the Lincoln Building, in the 18th and Vine District, is suing the City for not repairing or maintaining blighted and dangerous buildings it owns in the district. His complain says the district "has been purposely neglected."

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... 80763.html

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Kevin Collison is reporting that One Nine Vine is before the PIEA.

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Big 18th & Vine District Mixed-Use Plan Before Development Agency
The first phase of the proposed One Nine Vine mixed-use development, a $25.6 million apartment building with ground floor retail, is scheduled to be considered by a city development agency this week.
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The first building in what is anticipated to be a three-phase redevelopment project would include 80 apartments, 14,678 square feet of retail and 85 covered and surface parking lots, according to the PIEA application.
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Thirty, one-bedroom apartments are planned in the One Nine Vine project. Monthly rents for a 675 square-foot unit would be $850, with seven reserved as affordable at $726 per month.

Fifty, two-bedroom units are planned. Monthly rents for a 875 square-foot unit would go for $1,100 with seven set aside as affordable at $835.
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The second phase of the One Nine Vine proposal on the southwest corner of 19th and Vine is described as 7,000 square-feet of ground floor retail, a 30,000 square-foot super market, 200 “middle income” apartments and more than 150 parking spaces.
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A third phase on the west side of Vine closer to 18th street calls for 35,000 square-feet of ground floor restaurant and retail space, 33,000 square-feet of office, 60 market-rate apartments and more than 65 parking spaces.
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https://cityscenekc.com/big-18th-vine-d ... MqzdYgRWXc

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FangKC wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:32 am
Kevin Collison is reporting that One Nine Vine is before the PIEA.

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Big 18th & Vine District Mixed-Use Plan Before Development Agency
The first phase of the proposed One Nine Vine mixed-use development, a $25.6 million apartment building with ground floor retail, is scheduled to be considered by a city development agency this week.
...
The first building in what is anticipated to be a three-phase redevelopment project would include 80 apartments, 14,678 square feet of retail and 85 covered and surface parking lots, according to the PIEA application.
...
Thirty, one-bedroom apartments are planned in the One Nine Vine project. Monthly rents for a 675 square-foot unit would be $850, with seven reserved as affordable at $726 per month.

Fifty, two-bedroom units are planned. Monthly rents for a 875 square-foot unit would go for $1,100 with seven set aside as affordable at $835.
...
The second phase of the One Nine Vine proposal on the southwest corner of 19th and Vine is described as 7,000 square-feet of ground floor retail, a 30,000 square-foot super market, 200 “middle income” apartments and more than 150 parking spaces.
...
Image
A third phase on the west side of Vine closer to 18th street calls for 35,000 square-feet of ground floor restaurant and retail space, 33,000 square-feet of office, 60 market-rate apartments and more than 65 parking spaces.
...
Image

https://cityscenekc.com/big-18th-vine-d ... MqzdYgRWXc
Great news, hopefully it gets more activity down there and helps build it into more of a sustainable neighbourbood. Would be great if a bodega or something could go in.

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Riverite wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:48 am

Would be great if a bodega or something could go in.
Words matter if the goal isn't to look like the neighborhood is pricing existing residents out. Convenience Stores are for everyone, Bodegas are for well off people. (Despite being the same thing) Look at the image how they specifically put "middle income" in one phase in contrast to "market rate" to appear to not be too expensive.

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I went to plenty of bodegas in NYC that weren't for well-off people.

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FangKC wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:02 am
I went to plenty of bodegas in NYC that weren't for well-off people.
Could be a cultural thing where they seen as a bit foreign here (NYC thing) versus convenience stores

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Search for Bodega in KC in Google maps (I looked more metro than just downtown).

I found...
The restaurant downtown
a grocery delivery service in KCK
and a bunch of wineries

That's how elite the term is for KC, that it brings up wineries.

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The fact that there aren't numerous bodegas in the Kansas City metro doesn't mean that bodega is a term implying a well-heeled clientele. They are essentially a corner convenience store that were invented by Puerto Rican immigrants.

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Bodegas in large US cities that I've seen traditionally have been low brow small markets that offer more packed in than a convenience store. When they got hip, higher end or more refined stores started to appear using that identity. It can be anything across spectrum between a convenience store and mid sized market.

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I fully agree that Bodega in KC = fancy/hipster despite that not being the case in NYC, et al.

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This is a good opportunity to road diet Vine south of 19th Street. It's really wide from 19th to Lynn. The grades along this stretch are favorable to a bike route.

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Someone really needs to come up with a really good preservation/redevelopment plan for the Workhouse property as well.

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FangKC wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:28 pm
Someone really needs to come up with a really good preservation/redevelopment plan for the Workhouse property as well.
didn't they just install windiws

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