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		<title>BDC: I've Altered the Deal. Pray I don't Alter it Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:29:48 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Boss Tom's Ghost at Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:13:42 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It is refreshing to see a healthy dose of skepticism to contrast the Google cheerleading, but not sure it is entirely warranted.  Google is realistically investing (tens? hundreds?) of millions of dollars in local communications infrastructure and it isn't because they are charitable.  They are $200 billion publicly traded corporation that needs to make money on this or it just becomes another failed tech business plan.  They have little choice but to initially seek out the low hanging fruit to start the service.  Using the techy appeal of social media and human competitiveness, their fiberhoods will tell them where the early adopters and willing investors are located.  Once those areas served, if economically feasible, the remaining areas will get wired.  That surely includes downtown, east of Troost, probably even north of the river and maybe even the swines in JoCo may eventually get their hands on fiber.  <br><br>

You should also not forget the biggest blow to incumbent ISPs, the "free" broadband option.  A $300 fee to provide 7 years of what would still be considered a standard broadband connection, or roughly $3.57 per month.  No ISP is currently offering that kind of deal.  That is what changes the playing field.  And once that 7 years is up, you already have fiber installed to the premises.  Imagine if buildings downtown just told Google to wire the whole building and make broadband free to all residents unless they wanted the full 1000 mb/s and video service.  $300 a unit is a meager investment to offer that kind of amenity.<br><br>

I agree the video service isn't anything to wow you.  If they offered a la carte channel lineups, that would revolutionize the video industry.  As it is now, it is simply an alternative to existing providers, which is still a welcome site given that TWC can be just simply awful.  Incumbent providers have had decades to build, establish, and adjust their services, add customers, and get feedback.  The fact that people are racing to get away from them should say more about the status of our existing communication and media options than what Google is actually providing.  Even an unimpressive offering may still be better than what we currently have.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:13:42 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ihtarlik at Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:18 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Part of the deal with the city is to install fiber to roughly 200 public buildings such as libraries and schools. That's just not part of the media hype. The city management <br><br>
knows about this, and they don't need a social media marketing campaign to get those institutions to "sign up." If you talk to any of the Google team members, they'll tell you <br><br>
the goal is downtown South to I-435 first, then they plan on expanding more North and South. They eventually want to provide access to many more cities besides Kansas City, <br><br>
but that will entirely depend on how well things go here.<br><br>

I know a lot of people that are very excited about it, and a great many more that are anxious to find anything even marginally better than what Time Warner, AT&amp;T, and Comcast <br><br>
have been spoon-feeding us for the last few decades. SureWest recently put fiber in Olathe and began offering 18Mpbs symmetrical service for about $50/mo and people jumped <br><br>
ship from Comcast like rats fleeing a fire. I don't think Google will have any problems convincing people to switch.<br><br>

But even more intriguing is the way their reps talk about "taking down" the other service providers. This is entirely speculation, but I think Google plans to disruptively <br><br>
innovate the broadband industry and out-compete anyone in their way. And once they have enough people signed up for TV, I expect they'll do something highly disruptive in the <br><br>
TV industry as well. Imagine if they competed their way to being the number one cable TV provider and then decided to use that base to negotiate for a la carte programming? <br><br>
Wal-mart does something similar with its manufacturers. And if companies like NBC tried to back out, less people would be willing to go back to pre-gigabit Internet than jump <br><br>
ship again to get that programming back (especially when they learn how to torrent on gigabit).<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:18 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>ihtarlik at Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:23 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Part of the deal with the city is to install fiber to roughly 200 public buildings such as libraries and schools. That's just not part of the media hype. The city management <br><br>
knows about this, and they don't need a social media marketing campaign to get those institutions to "sign up." If you talk to any of the Google team members, they'll tell you <br><br>
the goal is downtown South to I-435 first, then they plan on expanding more North and South. They eventually want to provide access to many more cities besides Kansas City, <br><br>
but that will entirely depend on how well things go here.<br><br>

I know a lot of people that are very excited about it, and a great many more that are anxious to find anything even marginally better than what Time Warner, AT&amp;T, and Comcast <br><br>
have been spoon-feeding us for the last few decades. SureWest recently put fiber in Olathe and began offering 18Mpbs symmetrical service for about $50/mo and people jumped <br><br>
ship from Comcast like rats fleeing a fire. I don't think Google will have any problems convincing people to switch.<br><br>

But even more intriguing is the way their reps talk about "taking down" the other service providers. This is entirely speculation, but I think Google plans to disruptively <br><br>
innovate the broadband industry and out-compete anyone in their way. And once they have enough people signed up for TV, I expect they'll do something highly disruptive in the <br><br>
TV industry as well. Imagine if they competed their way to being the number one cable TV provider and then decided to use that base to negotiate for a la carte programming? <br><br>
Wal-mart does something similar with its manufacturers. And if companies like NBC tried to back out, less people would be willing to go back to pre-gigabit Internet than jump <br><br>
ship again to get that programming back (especially when they learn how to torrent on gigabit).<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:23 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>staubio at Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:23:40 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This strikes me as a pretty short-sighted view. Is innovation and entrepreneurship the stuff of office <br><br>
buildings or of driven, creative people being empowered? That's what fiber is. <br><br>

Besides, simply providing this one of a kind amenity is a game changer. This was always a consumer <br><br>
focused product. We are a test bed for how new products and services can be delivered with this kind <br><br>
of connectivity? If they want to sell us TV with some of that fat pipe, who cares?<br><br>

If all we do is Facebook with Fiber, that's our fault, not Google's.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:23:40 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Jeff at Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:46:52 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[the fiberhood goals aren't arbitrary.  it makes sense that it would be more difficult to run fiber lines where you have to <br><br>
dig things up as <br><br>
opposed to climbing a pole.  i'm sad it means some folks like you may end up getting it later, but they're going for the "low <br><br>
hanging fruit" <br><br>
first and i can't blame them for that.<br><br>

=================<br><br>

http://fiber.google.com/help/<br><br>

How did you decide the fiberhood pre-registration goals?<br><br>
Like many of our projects at Google, we relied on data.<br><br>

All fiberhoods are different. They range in size and density as well as speed and ease of Fiber construction. For example, <br><br>
houses that are spread <br><br>
out (like in the suburbs) require more time, fiber and labor, and therefore are more difficult to connect than homes in a <br><br>
dense urban <br><br>
environment. So, in those fiberhoods that are more complicated to build, we want to make sure that enough residents will want <br><br>
Fiber service.<br><br>

Taking that into account, we determined fiberhood pre-registration goals by grouping fiberhoods into three tiers:<br><br>
• Fiberhoods that have a 5% goal. Typically, these areas will be easy to build and install.<br><br>
• Fiberhoods that have a 10% goal. Typically, these areas will be more complicated to build and install.<br><br>
• Fiberhoods that have a 25% goal. Typically, these areas will be the most complicated to build and install.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:46:52 -0600</pubDate>
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