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		<title>BDC: Education Dilemma</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:01:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Brian at Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:10:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Looks like California's doing their best to screw teachers over more:<br><br>

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/09/16/school.supplies.ap/index.html<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:10:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Renae at Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:05:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I will say that our teacher's union "fights" for our number of sick days, personal days, vacation (Christmas and Spring Break), our number of after school obligations to the district, and of course our lawyer if need be. Do you need to be a member of the union to recieve such benefits? Of course not (with the exclusion of counsel). You simply need an active union at your school. As a result, teachers who choose not to be in the union are often resented by their co-workers. This for the fact that union dues would be much cheaper if all were in and the fact that the teacher who pays the dues really gets no more than the one who rides the coat tails. I am not sure that this answers any questions. Some teachers think of it as "malpractice insurance" and I guess that is what the world is coming to.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:05:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>bahua at Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:05:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Still sounds like blackmail to me.<br><br>

Bear in mind, also, that the situation you described only exists in <a class="l" href="http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm">Right to work states</a>, like Iowa and Kansas. In Illinois, for example, if you want to work at a place that has a union, you absolutely have to join the union, or you don't get the job. Such practices by the unions are illegal right to work states.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:05:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>alarico at Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:27:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[renae has good points. in the past unions also provided additional pension benefits if the teacher survived the classroom long enough to retire. don't know if this is still the case.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:27:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>bahua at Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:23:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[That brings up another interesting question:<br><br>

<b>How many teachers paying into the system stay teachers for long enough to come into their pension benefits?</b><br><br>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:23:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Prof._Hoffa at Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:04:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[You'll never learn in this town again!<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:04:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Rachel at Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:57:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It seems like the entire focus of [i]schools[/i] has been lost. Ay, education, anyone? It just feels like job security and good retirement plans are all anyone cares about. I'm not sure what it's called, but everything having to do with when a teacher has been at a school for x amount time (7 years? 10 years?), it becomes almost impossible to lay them off, unless there is some extenuating circumstance like sexual harassment or something. Emphasis on security, [i]not[/i] on education.<br><br>

Talk to Uncle Pat sometime to see what he thinks about public education and teacher's unions. Pretty interesting, pretty good, but you probably knew that already, anyway, John.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:57:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Rachel at Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:58:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Whoops. somebody fix my html.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:58:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Renae at Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:33:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[  Please bear in mind that my comments on the Union (though true to my knowledge) were simply trying to answer the questions posed.  I am a member of the Union and would love to talk with anyone who would say that I have "lost sight of education and/or schools" because of that.  I have taught in both private schools and public schools.  They both have pros and cons.  More importantly they both have teachers within them that care much more about the kids than they do the money and retirement.  They also both have teachers who could care less about kids, but care about the vacation time they get.  It was easy for me to jump on the bandwagon about how horrible public schools are when I worked in a private school.  The fact is there are public schools out there that are excellent at educating students, that care about small class sizes, and addressing individual needs: things I didn't see in the private school I was at.  <br><br>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:33:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Renae at Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:25:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[My apologies John!  I ended a sentence with a preposition.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:25:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>JMan at Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:17:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[you spelled individual wrong as well.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:17:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>bahua at Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:59:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It happens.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:59:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Renae at Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:16:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Are you sure about that Justin?<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:16:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>bahua at Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:45:00 -0600</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hehehe.<br><br>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:45:00 -0600</pubDate>
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